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If you are here it is because you heard Tom Schwab and me talking on the Ordinary To You Amazing to Others podcast.  I hope you had as much fun listening to us as much as I did talking to Tom.  He is a wonderful host who is passionate about introducing you to the people and ideas that can improve your life.

I'm passionate about helping leaders and businesses succeed.

Something resonated with you and brought you here, welcome!

  • Did you resonate with my story?
  • Do you want to see what you and your team are capable?
  • Did you picture us working together?
  • Did you just want to learn more about that voice you heard?

Whatever the reason, I'm glad you are here. I work best with people eager to learn and ready to take action when they hear a good idea. 

You can find the resources I mentioned on the interview here. Make sure to look around the site to learn more and see the newest resources to help you, your team, and your business.


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This is the podcast where Pastors can be vulnerable and transparent. Where you can learn how to avoid the most common career mistakes many in ministry make. And hear from some of the most successful church leaders, pastors and operators in the world on a variety of topics. This is the podcast for those in a hurry to get to their destination and achieve their goals fast. Learning starts now!

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When I first started my career I made lots of mistakes. Not just average mistakes, but a lot of really bad, terrible, misguided, arrogant, immature, and inexperienced mistakes. The kind you learn from immediately.  There’s a saying that goes, “experience is the best kind of teacher.” I am here to tell you that experience is the worst kind of teacher.  "Experience as a teacher brings nothing but heartache, frustration, difficulties, shame and embarrassment."

But you live and learn.

Please avoid the mistakes I made, and let me guide you in the right direction before you possibly experience the same kinds of failures as me.

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